Legislature(1995 - 1996)

09/21/1995 07:15 PM Senate HES

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        SB 156 MANDATORY MEDIATION:CHILD CUSTODY ISSUES                       
                                                                              
 CHAIRMAN GREEN called the Senate Health, Education and Social                 
 Services (HESS) Committee to order in the Mat-Su Legislative                  
 Information Office at 7:15 p.m.  However, due to the lack of a                
 quorum, she stated the meeting would be considered a work session             
 on SB 156.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN explained she sponsored the legislation at the                 
 request of the Victims of Custody and that it was introduced to               
 help families involved in child custody disputes resolve their                
 differences regarding child custody through mediation, a more                 
 relaxed and less costly process.                                              
                                                                               
 The legislation proposes to change current mediation law in the               
 following ways:                                                               
                                                                               
  1.  It requires a court to order mediation of child custody                  
 disputes with an exception for extraordinary circumstances to cover           
 situations where mediation might not be appropriate;                          
                                                                               
  2.  It expands the mediation requirement to include                          
 modification actions;                                                         
                                                                               
  3.  It allows the parties to choose the mediators; if there is               
 no agreement, then the court may appoint up to three mediators from           
 specified fields of expertise;                                                
                                                                               
  4.  It extends the time period for mediation from 30 days to                 
 90 days;                                                                      
                                                                               
  5.  It requires an award of custody to the cooperative party                 
 if there is a noncooperative party, unless the court finds that               
 this would not be in the best interest of the child or the                    
 children;                                                                     
                                                                               
  6.  It requires an award of custody as agreed by the parties                 
 unless the court finds that this would not be in the best interest            
 of the child or children; and                                                 
                                                                               
  7.  It allows the court to assess the costs of mediation                     
 according to the financial resources of the parties and whether               
 they participated in mediation with good faith.                               
                                                                               
 SB 156 also amends the current statute on custody modification                
 actions in the following ways:                                                
                                                                               
  1.  It requires a court to accept mediated modifications of                  
 custody or visitation without the need to show a change in                    
 circumstances unless the court finds that the modification would              
 not be in the best interest of the child or children;                         
                                                                               
  2.  It provides that relocation of a child constitutes a                     
 change of circumstances for purposes of modification of a child               
 custody award that involves shared physical custody; the extent of            
 modification would still have to be mediated; and                             
                                                                               
  3.  It provides that denial of visitation constitutes a change               
 of circumstances for purposes of modification of a child custody              
 award that involves visitation rights; the extent of modification             
 would still have to be mediated.                                              
                                                                               
 In addition, the legislation clarifies that the changes in this               
 bill apply to petitions for child custody or for modification of              
 child custody awards that are filed on or after the effective date            
 of the legislation.                                                           
                                                                               
 Concluding her overview on the legislation, CHAIRMAN GREEN said SB
 156 will help families with child custody disputes by providing a             
 mandatory mediation process instead of a costly and often                     
 confrontational custody hearing in court.  Mediation offers                   
 families a helping hand through the process and often saves all               
 parties time, money and unnecessary stress and anxiety.                       
                                                                               
 Number 060                                                                    
                                                                               
 CAROL PALMER, Advisory President of Victims of Custody, a parent              
 support group, that deals with the issues of child custody,                   
 visitation and child support, said she has taken over 200 phone               
 calls from all over the state, and there is one common, consistent            
 element in each:  each call deals with someone else who's                     
 controlling, domineering, manipulative, harassing and vindictive              
 towards each family member, especially the noncustodial parent.               
                                                                               
 Ms. Palmer said the only means our society has to deal with child             
 custody and visitation at this point in time is court documents               
 with a hired attorney and a court hearing, and she doesn't believe            
 there is any justice or fairness in our system when each parent               
 hires an attorney who battles the opposing attorney.  These court             
 documents are full of half truths, distorted facts, lies and                  
 slander in order to gain custody of the children.  Unfortunately,             
 the children become pawns in this situation.  The noncustodial                
 parent and their children fall under the control of the other                 
 parent.  She noted that she is a victim in this same type of                  
 controlled situation.                                                         
                                                                               
 Ms. Palmer pointed out that with the present system, a parent                 
 cannot get back into the custody review unless there is substantial           
 change of circumstances, and, without a substantial change of                 
 circumstances, there is no recourse to voice her concerns regarding           
 the custody of her own child and visitation.  Mediation, as                   
 provided in SB 156, would give her and others a recourse to deal              
 with their individual custody and visitation battles and                      
 situations.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Ms. Palmer also spoke to the costly financial responsibilities that           
 are automatically assumed by the noncustodial parent, especially if           
 the children are out of state or out of town.  Mandatory mediation            
 would give a preferred and more peaceful means of resolving these             
 issues by allowing both parties and the children over age 12 to               
 equally participate in mediation, voice their concerns and to work            
 out an agreement that is good for all.                                        
                                                                               
 In her closing comments, Ms. Palmer urged passage of SB 156.                  
                                                                               
 Number 105                                                                    
                                                                               
 SANDY HORNAL, Vice President of Victims of Custody, said she knows            
 that she and others like herself wouldn't be experiencing the                 
 problems they have had if they were able to go through mediation.             
                                                                               
 Ms. Hornal was married for approximately 10 years and had three               
 children.  When she and her husband separated, they were going to             
 go through a simple dissolution of their marriage, and he said he             
 didn't want custody of the children.  During their marriage he had            
 a drug and alcohol problem and didn't spend much time with his                
 children.  Because she had a good job and had basically been the              
 sole provider during the marriage, she felt she could provide for             
 her children without child support.  However, in petitioning the              
 court for no child support, they were told that couldn't be done,             
 so they went ahead and signed a child support guideline.                      
                                                                               
 Ms. Hornal said one summer, before the dissolution was finalized,             
 her husband decided he wanted to keep the children for the summer,            
 which she agreed to because she felt the children needed to spend             
 time with their father.  However, he then hired an attorney who               
 advised him to quit his job while he had the children for summer              
 visitation and go on welfare.  If he could gain custody of the                
 children, he would get a welfare check, as well a child support               
 check from her.                                                               
                                                                               
 Ms. Hornal had a child investigation done and through the whole               
 child investigation she was clearly proven to be a better parent              
 for these children, but when they went to court he was awarded                
 primary custody of the children because the judge felt the father             
 could spend more quality time with the children because he didn't             
 work and was on welfare.  The judge ignored the fact that the                 
 children wanted to be with their mother, and that when they were              
 with their father they spent most of their time sitting around the            
 house watching television or playing Nintendo.                                
                                                                               
 Ms. Hornal said that if there had been the option for mandatory               
 mediation and she could have sat down with her ex-husband, even as            
 vicious and mean as she thinks he is, she believes somehow they               
 could have come to some kind of conclusion where they could share             
 the custody of the children equally instead of him being given 9              
 months custody and she only three months custody during the summer.           
                                                                               
 Number 235                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN asked Ms. Hornal if there was anything in the                  
 legislation that she would like to see changed.  MS. HORNAL                   
 responded that the only change she thought should be made was to              
 subsection (b) on page 2 and the sentence "The parties of an action           
 and a court-appointed representative of the minor children shall              
 attend."  She suggested amending it to read that a 12-year old or             
 older would be able to go into mediation without the representative           
 and have his own say.                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 255                                                                    
                                                                               
 SHARON MARTIN requested that a provision be added to SB 156                   
 requiring mandatory mediation of custody disputes or visitation of            
 the mentally and physically handicapped over the age of 18 years              
 who are in custody under the state, foster homes, or family                   
 members.  She thinks mediation for any of these group would                   
 probably save a lot of time, money and aggravation.                           
                                                                               
 Number 267                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN asked if that would be primarily to serve the family           
 of the person mediating with the state agency.  MS. MARTIN                    
 responded it may be biological family versus the state, or                    
 biological family versus family, or even possibly foster homes                
 versus families or state, etc.  SENATOR GREEN said she thought this           
 was an area the legislative legal division would have to look to              
 determine if this bill was the appropriate vehicle for her                    
 suggested amendment.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 290                                                                    
                                                                               
 ROBERT SHUMAKER stated his support for mediation because the                  
 current system is a win/lose system.  If mediation is done                    
 correctly, it draws both parties into the process and it usually              
 comes up with a good resolution that they both are happy about and            
 is better for the children.                                                   
                                                                               
 Mr. Shumaker noted that Drew Peterson, an Anchorage attorney, is              
 one of the most well-known supporters of meditation in the state,             
 and he believes this is the only avenue for family disputes over              
 children.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 326                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN asked Mr. Shumaker if in the courses he has taken as           
 a paralegal, he can think of any group or person who might oppose             
 mediation.  MR. SHUMAKER responded one group would be the                     
 attorneys.  He also pointed out that in her sponsor statement she             
 said a change in the current mediation law would require a court to           
 order mediation of child custody disputes with an exception for               
 extraordinary circumstances.  He said he has found that words like            
 "extraordinary circumstances" are real problems, and when dealing             
 with something like domestic violence, and in reference to  this              
 mediation bill, he could see some problems cropping up.  He also              
 thinks the Women Resource Centers would oppose this.                          
                                                                               
 MR. SHUMAKER also commented that reference was made to a 12-year-             
 old being part of mediation, but he is not sure that it is                    
 appropriate for children to be in on these decisions.  He believes            
 that the key is having the two adults as part of that mediation               
 process.                                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 430                                                                    
                                                                               
 LEONARD MOFFITT urged the passage of SB 156, and, if necessary, to            
 fine tune it later.  He would like to see parents mediate on how              
 much they are going to contribute to the support of their children,           
 with each parent contributing an equal amount.  He said both                  
 parents are equally responsible, and the courts should not be                 
 involved in the process.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 490                                                                    
                                                                               
 CAROL PALMER, in responding to earlier comments,  said Victims of             
 Custody has talked to Senator Green about some wording being                  
 changed relating to a court ordered representative for the                    
 children.  She said she knows her own child who is 13 1/2, would              
 like to speak on his behalf concerning his own life and his own               
 future, and he doesn't like the fact that he is being denied that             
 say so in this process, whether it is in court or in mediation.               
 She believes that children 12 year of age and older have a right to           
 speak on their own behalf.                                                    
                                                                               
 Ms. Palmer also noted she has taken mediation training that is                
 available through the University of Alaska, Anchorage, and she                
 believes mediation can be handled in a mediation session when the             
 mediator is skilled and knows how to handle it.                               
                                                                               
 Number 525                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN announced that if anyone has additional comments               
 they could submit them to the committee and they would be included            
 in the record.  She also said the committee will continue working             
 on the bill and the drafting of a possible committee substitute for           
 consideration in early January.                                               
                                                                               
 There being no further testimony on SB 156, CHAIRMAN GREEN                    
 adjourned the meeting at approximately 7:55 p.m.                              
                                                                               
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 The following letter was received from Pamela Sandvik of Wasilla              
 for inclusion in the record:                                                  
                                                                               
 "I was unable to attend the 9-21-95 public hearing regarding SB
 156: mandatory mediation, due to another commitment.  However, I am           
 highly concerned about the matter and the potentially dangerous               
 situations this legislation will create.                                      
                                                                               
 Domestic violence is a very real threat, not only to women, but to            
 the children raised in these families.  In fact, in over 65 percent           
 of families where spousal abuse is present, child abuse also                  
 occurs.  Mandating thee women to have forced contact with a violent           
 partner creates the opportunity for further violence and even                 
 murder.                                                                       
                                                                               
 I urge you to consider all sides of this issue and think about the            
 potentially negative side effects of such a law.  If you still                
 believe this is a valuable and necessary piece of legislation, I              
 would like to suggest an amendment.  Create within SB 156 an                  
 exemption clause for families who have experienced or are                     
 experiencing domestic violence (or sexual assault).                           
                                                                               
 I believe that you want to do the right thing for our families.  I            
 believe that you care and hope to create positive change in our               
 community.  I urge you and other law makers to look at al sides of            
 this issue.  I trust you will make the right decision."                       
                                                                               
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 The following letter was received from Marilyn Mead of Salisbury,             
 N.C. for inclusion in the record:                                             
                                                                               
 "In Montana, I lost custody of my two boys during their visit                 
 Christmas 1994; to a physician father who is now living in                    
 Talkeetna, AK.  This man admitted 1) child abuse:  1981 to 1987;              
 1981 marriage counselling due to domestic violence, 1987 counseling           
 due to charges by DSS and 2)  multiple psych. interventions over a            
 12-year period:  med. school '80-81; needing a lawyer to graduate;            
 internship '81; psych. hosp. '89, outpatient several years                    
 following. Mandatory evaluations for drug abuse include '87, '89              
 and '91.  Presently he notes relying on his wife (they met while              
 patients in an alcohol/drug facility '91) to monitor emotional                
 balance related to PTSD and depression as a Korean war orphan and             
 later an abused child in his adopted family.  Despite Jim's court             
 order for my 5-day inpatient evaluation 7/94; I came up healthy and           
 have no such history.  The treatment staff kept asking how could              
 this man pull off such an evaluation with no evidence?                        
                                                                               
 I had custody of the boys during the 3 1/2 year court battle                  
 following Jim's exit in April 1991 from us with his fiance.  The              
 Montana trial was held August 1994 with the decision made on                  
 December 23, 1995.  On December 21, 1994, while awaiting the                  
 judge's decision, the boys were flown to Alaska for a court ordered           
 visit; December 23, 1994 I learned the boys would not return and a            
 child support check was due in two weeks; $450+ monthly.  Any                 
 future visits dependant on prompt payments.                                   
                                                                               
 By now, September 1995, the hospital board of Seward, Alaska                  
 unanimously voted to terminate Jim's contract 5 months early (again           
 consistent of employment history).  He's filed bankruptcy.  The               
 family moved to further isolation in Talkeetna.  Their second child           
 of present marriage died at age 6 months of "rare SIDS".  I have              
 been denied details of any events.  The boys are now advocates for            
 their dad and I do not hear from them... except stilted                       
 conversations which Jim has threatened to terminate.  I continue              
 writing to my boys biweekly.  I wrote to the Judicial Standards               
 Committee in MT and they reviewed the case; nothing.  Court appeals           
 are costly and time consuming and the court reflects bias toward              
 the father.                                                                   
                                                                               
 The entire court proceedings did not consider the boys' emotional             
 well being.  The judge arranged their first summer stay with Dad              
 prior to the trial.  He condoned a secrete evaluation of the boys             
 in June by the court appointed psychologist (Dr. Harper) for the              
 father.  I learned of this evaluation August 15 despite paying for            
 half of the evaluation.  This parent brought the boys to trial                
 following 2 months of "assurance" they had never really been                  
 abused, in-home church services led by Dad, (the preacher) and                
 assurance of their return to Alaska after the trial.  His present             
 psychiatrists stated parenting skills were "not impaired" at this             
 time with significant medication and therapy.  The judge failed to            
 look at research concerning child adjustment living under                     
 discipline of an abusive parent; their intense desire to believe              
 the abuser, and believe the abuse never really happened.  The judge           
 failed to look at community support systems and resources where               
 this father would be living.  Where would these children turn                 
 should Daddy relapse?  The judge refused to allow N.C. jurisdiction           
 despite the children living there 3 1/2 years prior to the trial              
 where their adjustment could have been evaluated.  The judge failed           
 to respect the boys' need to say good bye to friends and                      
 connections they had developed those years.  The judge denied the             
 value of this mother's relationship with her sons in good-byes or             
 communication.                                                                
                                                                               
 My biggest anguish is I cannot protect my children as their father            
 moves into more isolation, geographically, spiritually, and                   
 socially.  He encourages feelings of hate and fear toward others.             
 The judge's court decision and method of notification of the                  
 decision has taught the boys they had best believe their father.              
                                                                               
 I encourage hearings to review such atrocities as parents with                
 history of abuse and significant emotional instability gaining                
 primary custody with no conditions.  Surely public officials                  
 putting their heads together in a bipartisan effort can figure out            
 a humane way to validate both parents' role in the children."                 

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